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Frank: "I am telling you, bro. The fastest to climb the corporate ladder is contacts."
You: "And to make contacts, you need to be one of the sycophants."
Frank: "Sometimes, I wish I was somehow related to CEO of this company. So that I don't have to schmooze along with my daily work to rise up."
You laughed.
You: "I wish I was the CEO. I would never have given you any referral"
Frank: "You know I am a better coder than you."
You both laugh. Jeannie was listening to everything and did that lip thing while holding the Forbes magazine on my desk.